Bills were met this week

a very minimal amount was able to go into the envelopes and we had Sat. off to drive an hour to the north and use a coupon for a fish dinner and visit a good will store..
The foreclosure of the flea market really has hit hard… We have lost 1/3 of the income… and I am not sure if I had mentioned this or not but Chris also pastored a small church for the flea market vendors there also. The owners of the flea market paid us 90.00 a month ( really we did not do it for the money) , but a month before they announced the foreclosure they had asked Chris to step down because he wouldn’t do what they asked…. which was we allowed a black woman to pray at the end of service…. ( yep, I’m in the rural south folks)… so along with the scramble to a new business place we are still a bit raw from that whole ordeal…
The flea market decided to relocate and we told them we could not accept the beliefs of the owners/ management… so our tiny little spot in our hometown ( the flea market was 30 minutes away from our home) is the hub of our business…. and its doing OK…. we were really hitting our stride at the old location BUT, thankful we didn’t have any debt to carry with us…
The woman next to our new shop is a realtor and she printed off the real estate listing for the old building we were in… they went into foreclosure in Nov, so the lie they told us in Jan about a new owner and a 3 year lease was false…. and no one new bought the building in March like they told us… the 10 days we had to pack up and relocate was because of an evicition notice and the bank had turned the property over to a trustee…. The realtor said we could sue for rents that we paid int he last 90 days because that is the amount of time allowed in a foreclosure…. those folks simply wanted the rent money up to the very end…
This whole thig has me a bit stressed, I am so glad I have my garden to distract me! AND 100lbs of potatoes to can from a local farmer :)….
..and just between us friends here… may I say I hate racist liars… hate might be a bit harsh….. how about dislike intensely

Guy was reading or listening to e-books

more than I slept or was in class, now he’s got so much “knowledge” about internet marketing that he’s spent the last 3 years trying to make a living off of it. First two years, about 2 grand down (made like 100$ off one place but didn’t even continue with it because it only had ”two levels” *cough* pyramid scheme).

last I heard he was trying to use traffic exchanges to try and pimp out someone elses product, only people I see making money (and more than a fraction of minimum wage for the time put in) are the propaganda people launching the over-all “system” then walking away 6 months later to do the exact same thing with a new logo.

It’s like there’s 20 people that each own a slaughter house, the hobbyist who wants to make some extra coin (or make his own business) look at payday loans online and the masses just keep getting herded into the houses to get cleaned of cash. Then a new coat of paint on the house and voila, new batch of suckers to clean.

You think people would fall for MLMs as much if we didn’t have a variety of suspiciously similarly built ”fund raising” techniques used since elementary school?

My involvement with Nikken is somewhat anecdotal, but I’ll toss it in and try to be brief

First, I commend you for doing some due diligence after the initial “HOLY COW! THIS IS GONNA MAKE ME RICH!!” phase subsided. I wish I would have done the same with my involvement in Amway and an Amway Motivational Organization.

Second, one of my brothers joined Nikken and spoke, too, of ultra high-priced products, rationalizing that THESE magnets were somehow better than (so-called) ‘normal’ magnets. He gave a wacky explanation, which I recall sounded like so much sales jargon that I — as his brother, mind you (and a thespian) — turned into a vignette about “At Nikken, we harvest only the BEST and BRIGHTEST electrons from the energy fields and valleys of atomic nuclei!!” which sort of pissed him off. But, hey, what are younger brothers for? And, besides, his rationale was obviously canned and avoided the issue. He spoke of having to ‘invest’ $2,500 (as I recall) in order ‘to REALLY get it going’ and I KNEW right then, this was a front-loaded sponsoring scheme.

He sponsored my dad, and both he and my dad swore by the products (as vehemently as they swore AT the prices) but (of course) “…distributors get a discount and, besides, when you sponsor (err…”help”) enough people it’s like getting these magnets for FREE.
Plus, you can make a TON of money. I mean, who do you want to help feel better or who do you know who wants to make a TON of money? Let’s call them now!…” Yeah. I think I know the rest.

Third, my brother and dad lost all their “investment” of $2,500 each, sponsored no one and had a slew of magnets they were wearing and “demo-ing” for months afterward, trying to create interest so they could sell their over-priced inventory and recoup at least SOME of their loss from the front-loaded bonus level “buy-in” scam.

Fourth, Nikken reeks of the putrid stench of “MLM” — and there are PLENTY of posts (way more detailed and succinct than mine could ever be) that thoroughly and finitely explain why MLMs, by their very nature, are bad business models and benefit the very few at the expense of the very many. Please continue to search MLMs business model on this site (and virtually ANY post by paine_wwweb_r on the topic!).

Fifth, take my story at face value only and do more research yourself before you part with THOUSANDS for (what I think can be proven by surfing this board) is just another scam to take advantage of the well-intentioned.

You are SO FAR ahead of the curve on this. Keep digging. Never stop asking questions.

All the best